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[tinny]

I'm a little bummed that somein30 is no more. It joins a long, long list of icon challenge comms that existed on LJ and DW over the last 25 years.

Since I'm already running three challenge comms, I don't feel up to running another one - the creation of the challenge/inspiration posts is always the most time-consuming part.

But then I thought to myself, what if we just did some old challenges again? Creating a new challenge comm where existing challenges from old challenge comms are re-done, one each month, from a different comm each month.

What do you think of this idea?

Poll #28535 retro icontest interest poll

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Do you like this idea?

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Yes
19 (100.0%)

No, how dare you, that's stealing other people's creative challenge posts!
0 (0.0%)

I don't know... Maybe... Let's talk about it
0 (0.0%)

I'm not interested
0 (0.0%)

Comments

[violateraindrop]

I think this is an awesome idea. Somein30 or the7days or the multi maker communities had some awesome challenges that I would not mind doing/seeing again.

However, some people probably think it's stealing? I don't know. I personally don't think so...

[tinny]

I don't know either, that's why I asked before just going for it.

One could also come from the other point of view and say it's great that people are still having fun with challenges that were created ten years ago, and it's a sign of honoring their quality? Of course each original challenge author would be credited.

Idk.

I'd ask, and I will absolutely do that for every comm where I can still find the admin. But my plan is not only to use currently existing ones where that would be possible, but also the *very very old ones* that were made on LJ ages ago and there's no way to ask anyone anymore.


Of course, going into details, we could have opt-ins and opt-outs, and then there's the question of whether we'd want to copy the challenge posts (just so they don't vanish on us) or just go with links to the original posts? I just didn't want to go that far into planning something like that if there's criticism of the idea in the first place.

[violateraindrop]

say it's great that people are still having fun with challenges that were created ten years ago, and it's a sign of honoring their quality?
Exactly!

Preserving the original posts would be neat. And maybe add newer inspiration?

[tinny]

And maybe add newer inspiration?

But that would mean work. /o\ I don't have time to actually *run* a whole new comm.

[violateraindrop]

Sorry, true *hides*
Or invite people to share inspiration that would fit in the comments? Let people add some stuff and then post a reminder to say "Look, we have some newer inspo, too."

[tinny]

Oh, that's a good idea! While we're already crowdsourcing. :D

[corvidology]

In my experience of restarting old challenges, the important thing is to ask - even if it's unlikely you'll get a response - and then credit them as you go.

I only personally know of two comms that said a flat out 'no' to being revived. One was a very elaborate multifandom reccing site and the other a com for an event that only took place in one month a year.

[tinny]

Yes, I'll definitely ask. Although the old LJ comms have been abandoned for a loooong time now, so I'm pretty sure I won't get an answer.

Does that mean I can't "take" a challenge from them? That would pretty much nullify the idea, because most of all I want to go back to those very old ones.

Because I'm not looking to revive a single comm, but to collect challenges from all over the place, from a different comm each month.

[corvidology]

I still think it's fine. If you're going to start a new comm for this - I don't know what your intentions are - then list and credit the old comms you're getting the challenges from and I think you're covered!

[tinny]

If you're going to start a new comm for this

Yes, that's the idea.

Create a new comm where we do challenges from all over, a different one from a different comm each month. I've myself been a member of 30 icon challenge comms on LJ (I just counted), and all of them are dead, of course. We could go for three years without taking a challenge from the same comm twice.

And of course each challenge will be linked and credited. We should probably copy the challenge posts, though, just so they don't vanish in case LJ disappears. But I don't think that'll make it worse? Idk.

[littlemissnovella]

I think some people might not even know that older challenges exist and where to find them and if they can redo them. I guess asking wouldn't hurt as well. And I am not sure - does that mean if I go back to redo somein30 challenges, that I can't post it?

I guess what I am saying - if you want to tell people where these old challenges are - then giving credit isn't an issue.

[tinny]

Okay, thank you. Of course they'll be credited and linked. (And asked, for those where the admin accounts still exist and can be asked.)

It didn't occur to me to post to the old challenge comms (I'm guessing neonspider would be fine with that, in the case of somein30).

I thought of creating a new comm where all the challenges are taken from other comms. All different ones every month. And I was more thinking of really old ones, like theiconthrone, or paintedpixels . Ones I used to be a member of ten years ago and loved.

[magicrubbish]

I think it's an excellent and exciting idea, like revisiting an old bygone era of which I couldn't be part of. It makes my creative juice running!
Every one has different thought processes and pov. For me, if I'd made inspiration posts in such a community and then 10 years later I see some people using them to run a challenge, at best I'd feel deeply honored , seen and appreciated and at worst, I won't care. But in no way, I'd mind. But like said, everyone has different way of thinking.
Like others suggested , best thing would be to ask and seek the makers of those communities and if they're found and gladly agree, nothing like it. But if they couldn't be traced , I'd say if you properly credit the maker and the community, there's no way you're in the wrong at any point. Because think of it. There's technically no way to stop or prevent anyone to keep using the inspiration posts to be inspired to make icons any time anyway . Not unless they annihilate the community and delete the posts. Which they didn't.

[tinny]

at best I'd feel deeply honored , seen and appreciated and at worst, I won't care. But in no way, I'd mind.

Me, too. But I wasn't sure whether I maybe was the only one who thought so. But the poll is crystal clear in its unanimousness. O_O

Because think of it. There's technically no way to stop or prevent anyone to keep using the inspiration posts to be inspired to make icons any time anyway . Not unless they annihilate the community and delete the posts. Which they didn't.

Oh, that is a good point. Thank you!

I feel like everyone's made similar points - I have to ask where possible, but where it's not possible, we can still use the posts, provided I credit properly (which of course I'll do!). So that's what I'm going to do.

Thank you so much for discussing this with me!

[abyss_valkyrie]

There was inspired 20in20, seasons20in20 and may others on LJ that had amazing inspirations but I missed out on that era of iconing in big comms,so I would probably enjoy the hell out of this though I can imagine the challenging task of running the comm. :)

[tinny]

Yay! \o/

There was inspired 20in20, seasons20in20 and may others on LJ
I checked my lj profile, and I'm still a member of 30 icon challenge comms there. :D We're spoiled for choice! :D

though I can imagine the challenging task of running the comm. :)
Ah, I'm hoping it won't be that much work, because I can just take/link existing inspiration posts? I very much hope it won't be too much work, lol. :D

I already went ahead and created the comm (retro_icontest), because the poll results here were unanimously in favor of the idea. There's no content in it yet, of course.

The first person I asked was applepips, who used to run iconsomething, and she already gave me permission.

You ran/are running some, too, right? If you want to give me explicit permission for your comms, that would be awesome, too. I'm going to start a list of comms which we have permission for, so we have a basis from which to start, and then I'll go collect more permissions from older comms.

[abyss_valkyrie]

Ahhh!I am only running and co-modding some comms which are active.
I took over animated20in20 which I put on hiatus in 2021. Here it is: https://animated20in20.livejournal.com

You can check with aurora_amethyst as I remember her running narnia20in20 which she put on hiatus too.
Also if possible to track down naginis on LJ, the7days here: https://the7days.livejournal.com/ would be lovely to add to the collection!

Then another which doesn't get updated would be celeb_it (https://celeb-it.livejournal.com) & actress_ic which went on hiatus (https://actress-ic.livejournal.com/)

[tinny]

So does this mean you're giving the permission to use challenges from animated20in20?

Thank you for the other links! I'll go ask them for sure. <3

[abyss_valkyrie]

Haha!Yeah,please go ahead and use the challenges at animated20in20!:D

[tinny]

Thank you! I finally added it to the table I made (here), but I haven't felt up to asking anyone else yet. I have too much work rn to be tackling stressful communication tasks. /o\

[naushika]

This is an AWESOME idea.

[tinny]

Thank you! <3

I've started pm-ing mods of old comms to get permission. I already have some, and we'll be able to start soon, I hope.